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A lot of food for thought, as usual, in the podcast you guested on. Also good to know you don't have to read the book before you interview the author lol. Making a note of that.

https://e360.yale.edu/features/abandoned-lands-restore-biodiversity related, I found this pretty interesting

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*How do we get through the bottleneck of climate collapse and polycrisis, through to a better system that offers more expansive possibilities?*

Closed I've read is a A Blue Remembered Earth, and it mostly just gestured backwards.

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